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post Nov 4 2009, 03:27 AM
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offer these to donators


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YOU CAN OFFER THEM LIMITED TIME OF USE FOR CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DONATIONS.
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post Nov 4 2009, 06:27 AM
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I dont think the 4 slotted items will be a good idea.

When you offer these, the balance of the game will be, to put it this way, *ed. If these items will be availlable, then error will have to change the other items as well. The items that can be found in the game. Its all about balance dude... There can be stronger players, but not to insanely strong or there is no more fun about the game. The mobs wont be any more challenging and the pve side of the game will be only for lvling and nothing more...

But the sled-bike is a good idea, but then for christmas event.

Anyway, this is my side of view.
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post Nov 4 2009, 11:01 AM
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one question, what server is that? yours?

and plus these were offered in old server. wouldn't be fair. well isn't fair anymore anyways.. i wasted so much to start all over.
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post Nov 4 2009, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE (Genetixx @ Nov 4 2009, 06:27 AM) *
I dont think the 4 slotted items will be a good idea.

When you offer these, the balance of the game will be, to put it this way, *ed. If these items will be availlable, then error will have to change the other items as well. The items that can be found in the game. Its all about balance dude... There can be stronger players, but not to insanely strong or there is no more fun about the game. The mobs wont be any more challenging and the pve side of the game will be only for lvling and nothing more...

But the sled-bike is a good idea, but then for christmas event.

Anyway, this is my side of view.


WELL THE IDEA HERE SIR IS TO CREATE A DIFFEERENCE BETWEEN DONATORS AND NONE DONATORS. SINCE CG POINTS CAN BE ACQUIRED NOT ONLY BY DONATING BUT ALSO THRU OTHER MEANS, WHAT DONATORS CAN HAVE, EVERYBODY CAN TOO. IN ORDER TO INVITE MORE DONATORS, WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING EXCLUSIVE. SOMETHING NONE DONATORS CANT HAVE. IT WONT ALSO DESTROY THE BALANCE SINCE HAVING THESE ITEMS WONT MAKE THE PLAYER A GM LEVEL. THESE ITEMS ARE JUST ARMORS. IT WILL ONLY INCREASE THEIR DEFENCE BUT ATTACK WOULD STILL BE THE SAME. IN SHORT DONATORS WOULD BECOME VERY TOUGH BUT NOT VERY STRONG. THIS WILL MAKE THEM ENDURE MORE ON CHANEL 3 THAN NON DONATORS
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post Nov 4 2009, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE (DangerousKnight @ Nov 4 2009, 11:01 AM) *
one question, what server is that? yours?

and plus these were offered in old server. wouldn't be fair. well isn't fair anymore anyways.. i wasted so much to start all over.


YES ITS MY SERVER. BUT ITS OFFLINE SERVER. ITS NOT ONLINE. GIVING ITEMS TO PLAYERS WILL NOT AFFECT THE SERVER. YOU WILL NOT START ALL OVER AGAIN. WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE WHEN THE SERVER WAS WIPED OUT WAS BECAUSE THE SERVER PROVIDER EXPIRED OR THE OWNER WASNT ABLE TO PAY THE BILLS. SO WHAT HE DID IS TO FIND A NEW PROVIDER CREATING NEW SERVER AND DATABASE( WELL I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE REASON) THIS IS WHY WE NEED DONATORS. TO KEEP OUR PROVIDER RUNNING. IF ERROR CANT PAY THE BILLS, WE WILL HAVE TO START ALL OVER AGAIN
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post Nov 5 2009, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE (morphz @ Nov 4 2009, 04:05 AM) *
WELL THE IDEA HERE SIR IS TO CREATE A DIFFEERENCE BETWEEN DONATORS AND NONE DONATORS. SINCE CG POINTS CAN BE ACQUIRED NOT ONLY BY DONATING BUT ALSO THRU OTHER MEANS, WHAT DONATORS CAN HAVE, EVERYBODY CAN TOO. IN ORDER TO INVITE MORE DONATORS, WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING EXCLUSIVE. SOMETHING NONE DONATORS CANT HAVE. IT WONT ALSO DESTROY THE BALANCE SINCE HAVING THESE ITEMS WONT MAKE THE PLAYER A GM LEVEL. THESE ITEMS ARE JUST ARMORS. IT WILL ONLY INCREASE THEIR DEFENCE BUT ATTACK WOULD STILL BE THE SAME. IN SHORT DONATORS WOULD BECOME VERY TOUGH BUT NOT VERY STRONG. THIS WILL MAKE THEM ENDURE MORE ON CHANEL 3 THAN NON DONATORS


wauw, r you really that stupid? or are you blind?

I hope you noticed 4 slotted... with 4x amp and 1x crafted amp

The items found ingame are limited to 1 slot amp and 1 crafted amp so it will make them stronger, A LOT stronger, and it has NOTHING to do with defence hahaha (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) the item is still +7 so the defence stays the same. if you want to write something, first think before you write it
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post Nov 5 2009, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE (DangerousKnight @ Nov 4 2009, 04:01 AM) *
one question, what server is that? yours?

and plus these were offered in old server. wouldn't be fair. well isn't fair anymore anyways.. i wasted so much to start all over.


and about your comment, you sound like a little kid, it isnt your server, so you have nothing to say about it........ grow up, i'm not so stupid not to know that... I am only responding to the idea of the suggested items. I could say the same thing you say, hey!! morphz it isnt your server, so stop giving suggestions.

Guys, if you dont have anything constructing to say, dont say anything at all
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post Nov 6 2009, 01:27 AM
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QUOTE (Genetixx @ Nov 5 2009, 12:13 AM) *
and about your comment, you sound like a little kid, it isnt your server, so you have nothing to say about it........ grow up, i'm not so stupid not to know that... I am only responding to the idea of the suggested items. I could say the same thing you say, hey!! morphz it isnt your server, so stop giving suggestions.

Guys, if you dont have anything constructing to say, dont say anything at all



A LOT PEOPLE THINK THEY KNOW SOMETHING AND EVEN BELIEVE WHAT THEY KNOW IS RIGHT. STUPID PEOPLE IS KNOWN WHEN THEY REACT TO SOMETHING THEY DONT UNDERSTAND YET BELIEVE THEY KNOW BETTER
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post Nov 6 2009, 01:33 AM
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ALL I WANTED HERE IS TO IMPROVE THE NUMBER OF DONATORS. IF YOU DONT WANT ANY OF MY SUGGESTIONS ITS OK WITH ME. YOU DONT HAVE TO CRITICIZE OTHERS OPINIONS ON THINGS. SPECIALLY IF YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CABAL SERVER OPERATIONS EXEPT PLAYING IT
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post Nov 6 2009, 09:31 AM
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dont tell me I dont know anything about the operations of a own private server. I know you need a certain amount of donators to stay at least breakeven. But if error needs more donators, he will make things more interesting for them when he needs them to. You can suggest, ye, I wont stop you from doing that, but you cant stop me either from responding to that. But where did you get the idea in the first place that error has moneyproblems. He hasnt posted any of that, unless you speak personally to him... If you do that, my sincere appologies, but if not...

And btw, you cant change the items now. Because that means the donators will be pissed, and they will stop donating, because their items lost their value. Dont go suggesting that the gm's change all donators items and upgraid them, because that is a job I wouldnt want to recommend... This might be an idea for the future, but for now you cant do anything about that. And you have to keep the game balanced like I previously said. Not only the donator players r important, but the normal players even more. The better balanced the game, the more players will like to play, as well the not donators. That means more votes for the server. That means more players again, and that means more possible donators. Do you now see the importance to balance?
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post Nov 6 2009, 09:31 AM
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dont tell me I dont know anything about the operations of a own private server. I know you need a certain amount of donators to stay at least breakeven. But if error needs more donators, he will make things more interesting for them when he needs them to. You can suggest, ye, I wont stop you from doing that, but you cant stop me either from responding to that. But where did you get the idea in the first place that error has moneyproblems. He hasnt posted any of that, unless you speak personally to him... If you do that, my sincere appologies, but if not...

And btw, you cant change the items now. Because that means the donators will be pissed, and they will stop donating, because their items lost their value. Dont go suggesting that the gm's change all donators items and upgraid them, because that is a job I wouldnt want to recommend... This might be an idea for the future, but for now you cant do anything about that. And you have to keep the game balanced like I previously said. Not only the donator players r important, but the normal players even more. The better balanced the game, the more players will like to play, as well the not donators. That means more votes for the server. That means more players again, and that means more possible donators. Do you now see the importance to balance?

(and please, stop writing in capital letters, its freekin annoying)
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post Nov 6 2009, 09:32 AM
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sry for dbl post
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post Nov 8 2009, 06:30 AM
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QUOTE (Genetixx @ Nov 5 2009, 12:10 AM) *
wauw, r you really that stupid? or are you blind?

I hope you noticed 4 slotted... with 4x amp and 1x crafted amp

The items found ingame are limited to 1 slot amp and 1 crafted amp so it will make them stronger, A LOT stronger, and it has NOTHING to do with defence hahaha (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) the item is still +7 so the defence stays the same. if you want to write something, first think before you write it

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post Nov 8 2009, 06:44 AM
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QUOTE (Genetixx @ Nov 5 2009, 12:10 AM) *
wauw, r you really that stupid? or are you blind?

I hope you noticed 4 slotted... with 4x amp and 1x crafted amp

The items found ingame are limited to 1 slot amp and 1 crafted amp so it will make them stronger, A LOT stronger, and it has NOTHING to do with defence hahaha (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) the item is still +7 so the defence stays the same. if you want to write something, first think before you write it


this guy doesnt even know what armors are for. if you you look at your armor, it doesnt show anything about attack. it only shows things about defense. def and def rate. contrary to ypur weapon ie sword, which shows nothing but attack and attack rate. you cannot find def in your weapon. so im not blind nor stupid.

what you are refering to is the slot which adds skill amplification. this doesnt INCREASE your attack but rather IMPROVE your attack. thats is why it is called skill amplification. it merely improves your skill. in order not to miss. try to read other forums or conduct experiments yourself. try using armors with no slot, 1 slot, and 2 slots then see the difference
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post Nov 8 2009, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE (morphz @ Nov 7 2009, 11:44 PM) *
this guy doesnt even know what armors are for. if you you look at your armor, it doesnt show anything about attack. it only shows things about defense. def and def rate. contrary to ypur weapon ie sword, which shows nothing but attack and attack rate. you cannot find def in your weapon. so im not blind nor stupid.

what you are refering to is the slot which adds skill amplification. this doesnt INCREASE your attack but rather IMPROVE your attack. thats is why it is called skill amplification. it merely improves your skill. in order not to miss. try to read other forums or conduct experiments yourself. try using armors with no slot, 1 slot, and 2 slots then see the difference


So what you are saying, is that with amp the times you miss is decreased. Uhm, wrong. So people with more amp will miss a lot less... Then how about combo??? What you are saying as well is with amp your damage doesnt increase, well, I wonder if you play cabal at all. The amp is that the amount of damage done by an attack is increased by the amount of amp you have.

Lets ask the players: Does gear with amp make you do more damage, or will it just miss less.

The thing you are refering to: "in order not to miss" is attack rate. I know you have a private server, but a offline one, but it seems you do not have a lot experience in playing the game. Before you respond, please ask some people what amp is, and dont just type what you think it is, rather then what it really is...
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post Nov 9 2009, 05:24 PM
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Tse tse tse,

You are all wrong. The Skill Amplification option is to make your weapon more cool. It gives an "aura" to your weapon, more skill amp more beautiful is the aura, or you didn't seen the picture on the slot? It appears a weapon with aura!!

PD: Sup Gen, long time no see (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I read your pm but the thing is that im not playing this server anymore till it becomes New World. Now Im just helping on it. Anyways we can still speaking via MsN or Vent.

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post Nov 10 2009, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE (xAduNx @ Nov 9 2009, 10:24 AM) *
Tse tse tse,

You are all wrong. The Skill Amplification option is to make your weapon more cool. It gives an "aura" to your weapon, more skill amp more beautiful is the aura, or you didn't seen the picture on the slot? It appears a weapon with aura!!

PD: Sup Gen, long time no see (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I read your pm but the thing is that im not playing this server anymore till it becomes New World. Now Im just helping on it. Anyways we can still speaking via MsN or Vent.

Regards,
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yeah, sure, I'll pm you my msn

uhm, to go further about this discussion xD

If it makes the weapon more cooler with an aura, then it is actually useless in combat, amp. But how is it then that people with way more amp then other players, but with the same gear (1 with all amp, other with none) that the one with amp defeats the one without... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Nov 10 2009, 01:53 AM
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ok, to finally close the subject of what skill amp actually does, here is the explanation on the cabal EU forum

http://forum.cabalonline.com/showthread.php?p=430547

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If you have 20% amp you have to add 0.20 to the skill amp. Going back to the first example, if the skill had a 1.60 amp without gear, adding 20% amp would mean 1.60 + 0.20 = 1.80 total amp.

So in the end, with 1000 atk the result will be 1800.

Also be aware that the stat is ATTACK, not attack rate... behemuth talked about "attack rating" which may lead to a wrong idea. Attack RATE = value which determines your chance to hit the target, this has nothing to do with ATTACK and Amp.

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As you can see, the attack --> damage will increase, so not the attack rate, nor an aura around the weapon xD


If you still dont believe it, go and search on forums
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post Nov 10 2009, 02:43 AM
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Oh god Gen, obiously i was kidding XD about the aura haha
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the Suggestion items,i didn't have anytime to check on it,
Was too busy with stuff...currently im free i'll take a look in the forums and stuff for updates =)
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